Post by Admin on Mar 11, 2023 2:43:03 GMT
In July of 1947 something crashed in the New Mexico desert and after a preliminary investigation and retrieval the
Army/AF sent out a press release saying they had captured a flying saucer. Soon after, they rescinded the release and
claimed it was merely a weather balloon. The story more or less died after that but was revived again by
Staton Friedman sometime in the late 1970's.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roswell_incident
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanton_T._Friedman
In the late 80's or so my group did a fairly comprehensive armchair analysis of the Roswell incident although as far as
I remember none of us actually went out to the site in New Mexico. The incident happened in 1947 and this was roughly
40 years later so none of us were in a rush to spend time in the desert or desert town. We relied mostly on the
available literature and case work of other investigators but we did some interviewing of the living witnesses via
email and maybe phone but I wasn't the lead investigator on that case, one of my partners was, and he had a day job
working as a materials physicist for the US Navy in Washington DC. I can just give you a brief summary of what I think
most of us felt at the time but by then I was starting to work on the Budd Hopkins Brooklyn Bridge incident.
I'll just provide some references here and then if you want to talk just post some replies and/or questions and
I'll do my best to answer. I'll provide below some links to a few authors and some good books on the subject, since
so much has been written since we were involved with investigating the incident.
[Site books by Carey, Schmitt, Randle, Friedman]
Basically, I personally believe that Roswell was either an ET crash, or some group went to a lot of trouble to make it
seem like an ET crash. I give equal weight to both possibilities.
We had so many heated discussions about the debris field and amount of debris, weather patterns, etc. OMG
any sane person that spent more than a few minutes looking at the evidence would see right away that it wasn't
a weather balloon that crashed like the Army/AF said it was. Don't forget this was in the late 80's before the
AF came out with the Mogul Balloon explanation. I like to think our group was one of the ones that was putting
pressure on the government to come clean on the incident.
So they eventually threw us a bone and admitted it was a top secret Mogul balloon train. Now those things were
huge and probably could have accounted for a much larger debris field but would Major Jesse Marcel have
mistaken even a Mogul balloon for a crashed ET craft? Marcel was the RAAF base Air Intelligence officer for the
509th bomber Squadron??? (Sorry I'm doing this from memory right now) IOW, he wasn't an idiot. The 509th was the
only Atomic bomb group on the planet at the time, entrusted with these devasting nuclear weapons and had in fact
been the base where the attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were launched if I remember correctly so these guys
were the cream of the crop. They weren't idiots. They were American heroes and it's an insult to their memories
to suggest they couldn't tell a crashed balloon from an ET craft, even though the balloon was probably top secret!
But the materials weren't!
To make matters even more suspicious, the Mogul project was designed to float high in the atmosphere and detect
if and when the Soviet Union detonated an atomic device. So, some time I think in the late 40's or early 50's [ref]
when Mogul finally did detect a detonation, it was Major Marcel who allegedly wrote the report for the Truman [ref]
administration. So why would Marcel (in the late 70's) nearing the end of his life still be claiming
that what he found (in '47) was an ET craft? Makes no sense at all.
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Army/AF sent out a press release saying they had captured a flying saucer. Soon after, they rescinded the release and
claimed it was merely a weather balloon. The story more or less died after that but was revived again by
Staton Friedman sometime in the late 1970's.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roswell_incident
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanton_T._Friedman
In the late 80's or so my group did a fairly comprehensive armchair analysis of the Roswell incident although as far as
I remember none of us actually went out to the site in New Mexico. The incident happened in 1947 and this was roughly
40 years later so none of us were in a rush to spend time in the desert or desert town. We relied mostly on the
available literature and case work of other investigators but we did some interviewing of the living witnesses via
email and maybe phone but I wasn't the lead investigator on that case, one of my partners was, and he had a day job
working as a materials physicist for the US Navy in Washington DC. I can just give you a brief summary of what I think
most of us felt at the time but by then I was starting to work on the Budd Hopkins Brooklyn Bridge incident.
I'll just provide some references here and then if you want to talk just post some replies and/or questions and
I'll do my best to answer. I'll provide below some links to a few authors and some good books on the subject, since
so much has been written since we were involved with investigating the incident.
[Site books by Carey, Schmitt, Randle, Friedman]
Basically, I personally believe that Roswell was either an ET crash, or some group went to a lot of trouble to make it
seem like an ET crash. I give equal weight to both possibilities.
We had so many heated discussions about the debris field and amount of debris, weather patterns, etc. OMG
any sane person that spent more than a few minutes looking at the evidence would see right away that it wasn't
a weather balloon that crashed like the Army/AF said it was. Don't forget this was in the late 80's before the
AF came out with the Mogul Balloon explanation. I like to think our group was one of the ones that was putting
pressure on the government to come clean on the incident.
So they eventually threw us a bone and admitted it was a top secret Mogul balloon train. Now those things were
huge and probably could have accounted for a much larger debris field but would Major Jesse Marcel have
mistaken even a Mogul balloon for a crashed ET craft? Marcel was the RAAF base Air Intelligence officer for the
509th bomber Squadron??? (Sorry I'm doing this from memory right now) IOW, he wasn't an idiot. The 509th was the
only Atomic bomb group on the planet at the time, entrusted with these devasting nuclear weapons and had in fact
been the base where the attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were launched if I remember correctly so these guys
were the cream of the crop. They weren't idiots. They were American heroes and it's an insult to their memories
to suggest they couldn't tell a crashed balloon from an ET craft, even though the balloon was probably top secret!
But the materials weren't!
To make matters even more suspicious, the Mogul project was designed to float high in the atmosphere and detect
if and when the Soviet Union detonated an atomic device. So, some time I think in the late 40's or early 50's [ref]
when Mogul finally did detect a detonation, it was Major Marcel who allegedly wrote the report for the Truman [ref]
administration. So why would Marcel (in the late 70's) nearing the end of his life still be claiming
that what he found (in '47) was an ET craft? Makes no sense at all.
[MORE LATER]